Friday, July 24, 2009

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] cyborgs skin and programmers

Programmers good enough to do this kind of work are thin on the ground and
valuable. I wish we had a few. I mean, we do, but they are all busily
employed on well funded research projects and have very little time for more
speculative and less well funded work. Those that do are special. We could
do with a lot more.

I missed your call for a robotics programmer so am not sure what you were
looking for, but one observation I would make about development work in this
field is that employing a single programmer is not going to get you very
far. Robotics is one of the most multi-disciplinary and demanding of
technical areas. You need different kinds of programmers for different
aspects of the systems (sensing algorithms are very different to those
required for motor control). You also need engineers with various skill-sets
as well as specialists from other areas (computational linguistics, computer
vision, networking, micro-electronics, psychology, etc).

Regards

Simon


Simon Biggs
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:19:15 +0700
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Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] cyborgs skin and programmers


Sawasdee

re. Digital Skin

MAF Thailand (2005)
http://culturebase.org/home/thailand/MAF05/viewpage.php?menu_item=A_festival
_theme
http://culturebase.org/home/thailand/MAF05/viewpage.php?menu_item=B_maf_imag
es

re. Cyborgs discussion

everybody here TALKING about cyborgs but funny enough there were ZERO
programmers responding to my call "seeking hardcore programmer"

i wonder what is this discussion all about and who is going to do the
work;

it seems there is not a single hardware engineer or a serious programmer
reading this list - or?

perhaps the heads of departments, historians, academics, philosophers and
talkers should unite with a FUND to hire programmers to do something
about all this talk..?

hope to hear opinions

best regards from thailand
francis

Re.
> Hi Avi
>
> Thank you for your "Digital Skin".
> If Cyberspace is our skin, our body is a Network-body and a flat
> screen. If my memory is good, this made you say in a previous post
> that we are all cyborgs. At the same time there is a resistance to
> that. Actual matter resists to being resumed to digital matter.
> Thickness resists to being resumed to 2-dimensions. Physical bodies
> resist to being resumed to images. This resistence interests me.
> Things are not just flowing. They also scratch and scream. And cyborgs
> are not just the bright future of a superhumanity !
>
> In the 1970s, Jean-François Lyotard wrote about "The great ephemeral
> skin" in his book Libidinal Economy (Theories of Contemporary
> Culture). He was describing it as a carnal extrusion and a virtual
> membrane where the world and our desires would meet. It is "ephemeral"
> because it is in constant mutation. Cyberspace is like this "great
> ephemeral skin", just as language is.
>
> Here is an intersting artwork where the human body is scanned,
> fragmented and recomposed through machines and softwares which pervert
> the idea of mapping (GoogleEarth)
> http://www.locurto-outcault.com/index.html
>
> Best
>
> Stéphane
>
> Le 22 juil. 09 à 07:12, Avi Rosen a écrit :
>
> > Hi Stéphane,
> > Very interesting subject "Epithelia, Creative Skins"...
> > I made some artworks on this theme: "Digital Skin 2" -
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIO5bnV4i6E
> >
> > "The Cyberspace is an extension of the human foot, eye and the skin.
> > The
> > electronic gadgets and the data sphere are Galactic immediate Torus
> > like
> > extension of the human central nervous system, and the stage of
> > 'Digital
> > Skin' performance. It creates virtual extension of Marcel Duchamp's
> > unfinished "Big Glass" piece, his voice (manipulated by the speed of
> > light)on the video explains it. The transparent Cyberbody (digital
> > mummy) is
> > located eternally in cyberspace superposition. The departure and
> > arrival are
> > compressed to a singularity(Paul Virilio), on the digital skin's
> > surface.
> > 'Digital Skin 2' video sequence is bricolage of my endless virtual
> > voyages (
> > 'Digital Skin' is another example of such trajectory) in cyberspace,
> > superimposing personal data on public data base (Goggle Earth and
> > Sky). My
> > body digital data strips, merged with the Earth and cosmos digital
> > data
> > strips produced by the satellites and telescopes. The digitalization
> > of the
> > universe and our body transformed it to a flat image displayed on the
> > computer monitor ('Digital Skin').The digital video sequences are
> > the MEME
> > for further construction \deconstruction of cyber audiovisual mutual
> > memory
> > and universal knowledge."
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Avi Rosen,
> >
> >
> > This is the first time I contribute to this discussion. I am a visual
> > artist and art theorist. I am wrighting a book about skin as a
> > creative process ( "Epithelia, Creative Skins", "Les peaux créatrices"
> > in French).
> >
> >
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