Monday, January 25, 2010

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Simulation, remediation

Hi Simon, Yasminers,i wanted to discuss with you about the uses of experimentations in some artworks.Simulation
as experimentation

The
introduction of NTIC had modified not only the relationship of the public and
artworks, but also, the relation between the artist and his artwork.

The representation
has been modified since the revolution of science and technology, and this issue
takes the artists away of their handmade drawings to experiment other mediums
such as graphic tablets and software of computer graphics. So, in the coming of
internet they tried to have online collaborations to create commons artworks.

Olivier
Auber, is a net artist who created the "Poïetic generator" he tries with his project
to explain the collaborative sense of the internet in real time.( http://perspective-numerique.net/wakka.php?wiki=GenerateurPoietique)

This
participation takes the public in a simulation of their creativity by
representing their "art", such as in the website: http://www.pigpix.org/

The viewers
become actors in their imagination simulating; they create other artworks
simply by interaction with the website's graphics.

Other
example can be sited, in April 2008, the French artist Fred Forest, had created
"Centre experimental du terrioire" in the virtual world "Second Life". He
simulated a performance by the collaboration of different artists, politicians
and researchers with their avatars. They experimented a serious discussion
about "Sustainable development of the environment".

http://www.webnetmuseum.org/html/fr/expo-retr-fredforest/actions/70_a_fr.htm

The
cinematographer Berardo Carboni used the virtual environment to experiment a
new genre of cinema in his film "Vola Vola". Avatars become virtual creatures and
actors in machinimas.

He said to
me one day that he used the digital artwork as a simulation of a real film,
such as a storyboard.

http://volavo.la/Best regardWafa Bourkhishttp://artisticunionforthemediterranean.ning.com/http://www.wafabourkhis.fr.st/
--- En date de : Dim 24.1.10, Simon Biggs <s.biggs@eca.ac.uk> a écrit :

De: Simon Biggs <s.biggs@eca.ac.uk>
Objet: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Simulation, remediation
À: "YASMIN DISCUSSIONS" <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
Date: Dimanche 24 Janvier 2010, 12h30

Janelle Cugley wrote

³why?²
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According to the Yasmin mailman one word emails are not encouraged ­ so
perhaps I shouldn¹t reply to this email. However, it is a good question,
even if the answer was apparent in my previous email.

The idea of direct experience of things is impossible because we are all
mediated, as soon as we are alive and in the world, becoming socialised,
becoming human. Direct experience of things assumes a lack of mediation
between that being experienced and that experiencing. It is possible to
argue that the thing being experienced and that experiencing are part of the
same thing; that existence is found in the interaction between things, the
intertwined agencies of things. This can also be regarded as an instance
mediation (even mediation itself, which is why I suggested that being human
is being mediated). Heidegger, Derrida, Bolter and many others have
rehearsed these arguments.

I think the origin of this thread was in a discussion on simulation and the
sense of the real ­ that is is possible to get closer to a pure experience
of things through the use of more and more realistic simulations within more
and more immersive environments. This appears to represent some sort of
neo-modern, neo-romantic, yearning for a totalisation of experience and an
erasure of difference between us (the experiencer) and other (the
experienced). But this leaves out the question of the experience itself, and
that is where it all gets complicated. If you erase difference then perhaps
you erase experience, for they are likely the same thing.

One simple way to conceptualise this is offered by semiotics, as the
tri-partite structure of what is being described here resembles the
tri-partite structure of the sign, as proposed by Saussure. Some would argue
that our relationship with things is fundamentally concerned with, even an
instance of, semiosis. That we are part of the sign-making process. As soon
as recognition of and understanding of things begins then this process
begins. Even if one takes a less extreme position about this the thorough
mediation of the human remains evident.

Best

Simon


Simon Biggs

Research Professor
edinburgh college of art
s.biggs@eca.ac.uk
www.eca.ac.uk

Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments
CIRCLE research group
www.eca.ac.uk/circle/

simon@littlepig.org.uk
www.littlepig.org.uk
AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk

From: Janelle Cugley <blueskythink@iprimus.com.au>
Reply-To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:57:16 +0800
To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Simulation, remediation

why?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Biggs" <s.biggs@eca.ac.uk>
To: "YASMIN DISCUSSIONS" <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Simulation, remediation


The concept of remediation doesn¹t just apply to obvious media, such as TV,
cinema or computers. It also applies to how humans are humanly remediated.
>From when we are born we begin to learn language and other social
>signifiers
and processes of exchange. The process of social mediation is initiated from
birth (it might even be possible to identify this process earlier in the
life cycle). Social mediation is not static, just as other media are not
static. The conventions around what things mean, and what their value might
be, change - as do their processes and structures. This is a process of
remediation. In this sense human is media.

The idea that it is possible to experience anything directly, as the
phenomenologists argued, is simply unsustainable.

Best

Simon


Simon Biggs

Research Professor
edinburgh college of art
s.biggs@eca.ac.uk
www.eca.ac.uk

Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments
CIRCLE research group
www.eca.ac.uk/circle/

simon@littlepig.org.uk
www.littlepig.org.uk
AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk

Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201


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