actually it seems to me that the whole debate in yasmin presents hight
degrees of complexity! Very interesting.
Thank you @Pier Luigi for your effective synthesis. Actually the metaverse,
and SecondLife in particolar, shows some useful topics to reason about
imaginery and its relationship with the simulation of the body. I find the
most effective examples in the travel within SecondLife and in a certain
artistic research. I could try to say something about it in a following post
J
Best
laura
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>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Laura Gemini <laura.gemini@uniurb.it>
> To: Yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr
> Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 6:47:46 PM
> Subject: [Yasmin_discussions] around simulation
>
> Dear Yasminers,
>
> I have been reading the posts, in a foreign language, wondering if I
> understand well all the issues. Anyway what I can see, starting from my
> interests, is a sort of a triple point of view of the topic "simlation".
>
> As far as I'm concerned simulation regards: 1. epistemology; 2. imaginery;
> 3. art.
>
> 1. From the epistemological point of view I'd say that the shift from a
> first order cybernetic to the second order cybernetic let us treat the
> simulation, first, as a problem of the representation of reality (realistic
> and positivistic science in a modern society) and secondly as a
> costruttivistic issue. Reality is built by an observer (von Foerster) also
> thanks to the simulation. So, the simulation is a process that can foresee
> but also build, figure, experiment one world and the possibilities of the
> experience and behaviour (I read something interesting about this in a
> previous post).
>
> 2. So, the simulation seems to me a matter of the individual and collective
> imaginery. Or better: the simulation is one of the functions of imaginery
> (seen, with G. Durand, as the communication through the images and domain
> of
> the symbolic).
>
> Through the imaginery the simulation is the "practical" way to figure,
> think
> and imagine the things. So imaginery is a quality of the individual - which
> is symbolic (and the symbolic is the nature of the human beings, answering
> to Pier Luigi) – and it's a social quality spread by the media.
>
> Here we can observe again the epistemological shift which can be read as a
> transition from a representationalist imaginery to a performativist
> imaginery (actually I found out in this debate, with pleasure, an author sa
> Karen Barad - named by F. Timeto - that I never known earlier!).
>
> In the context of the representationlist imaginery the simulation can lead
> to the idea of experience as experience through images (symbolic
> representations). Here the observer is external to the observed reality (as
> in the theatre for example).
>
> In the frame of the performativist imaginery, on the contrary, the
> simulation is concerned with reality as a product of the observer which is
> part of the observed reality, who is object of his/her observation. The
> observer is within, not external.
>
> Here the experience is experience of the images through the body: embodied
> knowledge (Maturana and Varela).
>
> 3. In these terms art updates removed possibilities, produces new forms
> (Luhmann) and it can do this through the performing quality of the
> simulation. We can think about famous art works as *Osmose*, by C. Davies
> or, more recently, *Wave Ufo* by Mariko Mori or, in several cases of the
> artistic research in the live performance: the simulation/enaction of words
> is concerned with the embodied experience of the images, through the
> simulation of the body.As it happens, in a more clearly way, in the online
> worlds, as SL for example, where the body, thanks to the simulation of the
> body-avatar – makes experiences of an environment (Wafa Bourkhins in this
> list). But here there's a film as Avatar to mark a further step beyond…
>
> Bests
>
> Laura
>
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> Laura Gemini
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