Sunday, February 14, 2010

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] dream argument + simulation hypothesis (are we living in a computer simulation?)

And of course, the bibliography was missing.

http://www.xanadu.com.au/archive/bibliography.html

vr

Citando "Jennifer Kanary Nikolov(a)" <jenniferkanary@yahoo.com>:

> Hi Vítor,
>
> I assume we are all 'Neo', following the white rabbit down a self
> created trail. We are all the Universe, constantly talking to
> ourselves, getting to know each aspect of ourselves. Like Neo, we
> all have control over this 'matrix', if we can understand that 'the
> spoon is not a spoon' we might enjoy the game better...or not...if
> all is one, then the only way for the one to know itself it to
> divide itself, every experience is equally valuable, unless we chose
> for it not to be...we only need to be grateful (ancient idea's...
> ;-) unravelling this 'matrix' we hope, is like a gift in a gift in a
> gift, we hope it never ends...I've always wondered why we have a
> built-in self destruct mechanism...oxygen gives us life and death at
> the same time. Death allows us 'humankinds' to make the same
> mistakes, over and over, and over again...dividing knowledge learned
> over the construct of time, we find ourselves having the same idea's
> as the ancient people....It's like we
> are spreading ourselves and our knowledge thin over time...each
> word, each meaning we create another division...
>
> Jennifer
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Vítor Reia-Baptista <vreia@ualg.pt>
> To: yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr
> Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 10:47:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] dream argument + simulation
> hypothesis (are we living in a computer simulation?)
>
> Hello Jennifer.
> Interesting thinking. So, who is Leo in that Matrix?
> Vítor Reia
>
> Citando "Jennifer Kanary Nikolov(a)" <jenniferkanary@yahoo.com>:
>
>> Dear Clarissa,
>>
>> Thanks for bring attention to the simulation argument again and
>> adding the dream argument to that (until now a discussion on this
>> topic did not seem to take off yet, and I was starting to lose
>> hope...perhaps a discussion for another time, another day:)!
>>
>> I really like the quote of Zhuangzi in the dream argument:
>>
>> "He who dreams of drinking wine may weep when morning comes; he who
>> dreams of weeping may in the morning go off to hunt. While he is
>> dreaming he does not know it is a dream, and in his dream he may even
>> try to interpret a dream. Only after he wakes does he know it was a
>> dream. And someday there will be a great awakening when we know that
>> this is all a great dream. Yet the stupid believe they are awake,
>> busily and brightly assuming they understand things, calling this man
>> ruler, that one herdsman ‑ how dense!"
>>
>> Perhaps we are trying to figure out what (computer) simulation is
>> while at the same time being unaware of being in one ourselves? It
>> has such a powerful 'meme' through out history...!
>>
>> Perhaps we are a division of 'Brain Carrying Body Avatar's' created
>> by the Universe so it could see itself (or ourselves from different
>> perspectives)...thanks again Avi for posting the Tedtalk by Henry
>> Markram
>> http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/henry_markram_supercomputing_the_brain_s_secrets.html "The Universe evolved a brain to see
>> itself.."
>>
>> j.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Clarissa Ribeiro Pereira de Almeida <almeida.clarissa@gmail.com>
>> To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
>> Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 3:16:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] dream argument + simulation hypothesis
>>
>> Just sending some wikipedia links today on: dream argument + simulation
>> hypothesis
>>
>> The dream argument contends that a futuristic technology is not required to
>> create a simulated reality, but rather, all that is needed is a human brain.
>> More specifically, the mind's ability to create simulated realities
>> during REM
>> sleep <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REM_sleep> affects the statistical
>> likelihood of our own reality being simulated.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_argument**
>>
>> Simulation Hypothesis:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis**
>>
>> http://www.simulation-argument.com/matrix.html**
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Clarissa
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