I completely agree with ur argument.
In the traditional linear Euclidian world where rigid borders can be
defined, real & simulation can exist ...
http://www.sipl.technion.ac.il/~avi/horizon/Horizon_files/image016.jpg
In non-liner hyperbolic cyberspace which today dominating the real space,
the borders between real & simulation are blurred...
http://www.sipl.technion.ac.il/~avi/horizon/Horizon_files/image018.jpg
Best,
Avi.
-----Original Message-----
From: yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr
[mailto:yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr] On Behalf Of Pier
Luigi Capucci
Sent: א 07 פברואר 2010 14:30
To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS
Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] it is not a starting point//
Il giorno 06/feb/2010, alle ore 13.40, Simon Biggs ha scritto:
> We (artists included) see things through our own
> preconceptions. Everything we experience is mediated.
Maybe what I wrote wasn't clear, it does not exclude what you write. I
totally agree, all experience is mediated.
> Artists are not mechanical devices replicating what is before them.
All devices are cultural devices, are built by humans (also the second
order's devices, built by other devices). These devices share, represent and
serve the same cultural models human have, they repeat them. For instance
the photocamera and the camera still use a subset of the Renaissance
perspective rules. And perspective is embedded in the VR tools, 3D
videogames and metaverses. and so today we are immersed in simulations
through many media which use *that* perspective.
Nothing is "innocent" ;-)
Best,
Pier Luigi
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