Saturday, September 21, 2013

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] DOES ART SCIENCE COLLABORATION CONTRIBUTE IN ANY WAY TO SUCCESSFUL SCIENTIFIC PRACTICE ?

De solido intra solidum naturaliter contento. Steno's Law.

Introduction:
Solid, naturally contained within a solid, shaping layer within time
and space of a crystal system.
Time tailoring self similarity as a facies -- solid -- through
cristalline connected dots -- sphere floating in a kikuchi line
environment, by related or accidental coincidence particles grow--
rise as increasing patterns (I use the metaphor of sewing persian
carpet) as solid, naturally contained within a solid and again as
synchronised, harmonic pendulum. Liquid Reflections is just the
observe and reverse of the canvas of stitch: galactic plane.

I find very interesting what you post as I m designing 1atlas.com
under a discrete element computer models based on my introduction.
The search for a model of operation is the purpose of scientific
investigation. Scientists look for patterns in nature and even the
astrophysics like me see models once they identify one means that you
can potentially predict something in the world.

At first sight the natural world appears random, agitated and chaotic.
... but reality is that... there are schemes.
>From the petals of a flower, to the winding course of a river. There
is a geometry in the world surrounding around us.
and this is called fractal geometric and we use it for our River Theory.

pp

On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 11:41 PM, roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> forwarded from linked in
>
> Liliane Lijn<http://www.linkedin.com/groups?viewMemberFeed=&gid=1636727&memberID=31693844&goback=%2Egmr_1636727>
> • DOES ART SCIENCE COLLABORATION CONTRIBUTE IN ANY WAY TO SUCCESSFUL
> SCIENTIFIC PRACTICE ?
>
> I would like to contribute a few thoughts and recollections to this
> question.
>
> In September 2011, I was approached by John-Paul Latham, scientist son of
> the artist John Latham. He had seen my work, Liquid Reflections, at the
> Tate exhibition Art in the '60's, and was interested to use it for some
> scientific experiments. I reproduce here a section of his email to me
> (11/09/2006).
>
> 'So now, the scientific interest.... There is a whole community of
> researchers that use what we call discrete element computer models. The
> behaviour of systems with literally thousands of particles are often
> represented by thousands of spheres (even complex shapes are also being
> introduced now ). These systems are everywhere: eg soils and earthquake
> liquefaction, or rock fragments avalanching or jamming in a hopper, or even
> grains and vegetables packed into containers. They can all be understood
> better using these computer simulations that show the level of detail at
> the scale of the particle itself rather than computer simulations that
> treat the particulates as an en masse hybrid solid-fluid.
>
> What caught my eye with your work was the amazing life dance that the two
> different sized balls played out together, but the moves of the dance -
> motion in time and space - is governed by certain factors that Newton could
> have accounted for very precisely. I think I remembered your work
> incorrectly because your rotating plate looks quite flat whereas I thought
> it was dish shaped. It seems there is a slight curvature making it a dish
> when watching the end of the video on force fields (actually, John did some
> paintings also called force field, in the 60s).
>
> It occurred to me that the speed of rotation, size of the balls and the
> friction they have with the base plate/dish (and if it is curved - then the
> curvature), all play a major part in setting the possibilities for the ball
> motions. So, it would be very interesting to hear about your experiences
> although I appreciate that your focus and vision may have been rather
> different. I'd quite like to work out, i.e. simulate with the computer
> models - what we would expect to happen and compare it with Newton's
> analytic solution and of course see what happens on the art work itself -
> maybe try out some experiments.'
>
> John came over with his Post-doc student and having observed Liquid
> Reflections, they went on to make a computer model of the movement of the
> balls. I have the paper they eventually produced on their research. I have
> also emailed John-Paul to ask if he might wish to add anything to
> this.m<http://malina.diatrope.com>
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