Wednesday, January 29, 2014

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] [Yasmin: bogota columbia

this kind of oldboy curating happens all over, its not particular to
computer art.
there are loads of women who have done and are doing amazing programming
and digital art.
they are just invisible to (and invisibilised by) the boy's club.

salu2
pedro

On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:52 PM, rbuiani <rbuiani@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is a very needed debate, but all I keep seeing here are stats and
> percentages. We might go beyond these data and looked at the motivations
> that caused them.
> Is it just a gender pressure/assumptions (women ought to be in other
> professions)?
> is it because the field is dominated by men and women feel intimidated or
> not welcome (ie it is a boys club)?
> is it because coding is conceptually understood and practically approached
> in a way that simply doesn't appeal women?
> is it the teaching that only teaches you how to code and program certain
> items/accomplish certain tasks?
>
> frankly, I am a bit tired of hearing people complaining that women don't
> go into computer science or are misrepresented or failed to be represented.
> now I would like to see a thorough analysis. I don't think it is just a
> question of numbers, there is a problem with content and epistemologies. I
> am interested in anything that has been written on the matter (no stats, I
> have them already, they are not adding anything to what we already know)
>
> my two cents. sincerely curious and open to whomever would like to direct
> me.
>
> thanks
> rb
>
> On Jan 29, 2014, at 2:31 PM, roger malina wrote:
>
> > anne-sarah
> >
> > i am moving this discussion over to the yasmin discussion list so
> > please reply there !!
> >
> > greetings- your comment about the gender balance in this exhibition
> > ( 3/24) is part of a much larger problem
> >
> > i found this statistic on the web
> >
> > In 2010, women received on average about 14 percent of computer
> > science undergraduate degrees at major research universities, and that
> > number has not changed much since then. (huffington post)
> >
> > In our own university i think its 17% but in our Art and Technology
> > program we are 40% 60%
> >
> > it is ironic since so many of the pioneers in art and technology were
> > women ( see Judy Malloy's book
> > Women Art and Technology
> > https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/women-art-and-technology )
> >
> > the sociological filtering begins in primary and secondary school and
> > the fact that existing
> > approaches have failed to attract women into careers involving
> > science,technology, engineering
> > and math (STEM) is one of the motivations for the STEM to STEAM
> > movement or integrating the arts and
> > design into the teaching of engineering and science
> >
> > I dont know the statistics on gender of the curators in the art
> > science and technology field-
> > the leonardo book on rethinking curation is by Beryl Graham and Sarah
> Cook
> > http://www.leonardo.info/isast/leobooks/books/graham-cook.html
> > they run the excellent new media curating list
> > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=new-media-curating
> >
> > there is a discussion in america about how to include coding into the
> > teaching in elementary and
> > secondary schools- after all teenagers are now developing phone apps-
> > is programming now
> > as fundamental as writing ? my computer science colleague paul
> > fishwick feels that coding is not the fundamental
> > skill-maybe he will chime in to this discussion- but rather that
> > conceptual skills like modelling are more important
> >
> > in our university the women computer scientists are mobilising through
> > the new lean-in movement
> > http://leanin.org/ - karen doore who is being copied and is leading
> > this effort might like to comment
> >
> > thanks for your observation !
> >
> > roger malina
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM, <aslemeur@free.fr> wrote:
> >> Increible !!
> >>
> >> Not all the artists there are men ?
> >> 3 women on 24, great !!
> >>
> >> Anne-Sarah Le Meur
> >> Artist (didital art), researcher, women
> >> http://aslemeur.free.fr
> >>
> >> roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu> a écrit :
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.mac.org.co/index.php/exposiciones/222-analogia-digital-pioneros-de-nuevos-medios.html
> >>>
> >>> Digital Analogy is an exhibition that addresses the computer code from
> >>> an artistic approach. The artists who are taking part in this
> >>> exhibition have pioneered a number of processes and innovations that
> >>> we regularly use to communicate, research and share our concerns.
> >>> Their ideas also have influenced the creation of the interactive
> >>> interfaces that nowadays are crucial components for our performance.
> >>> Given the fact that at the time this group of creators came up with
> >>> these kind of electronic artworks, what we recognise as digital art
> >>> did not exist. Approximately four decades ago we had the ideas and
> >>> philosophical frameworks to develop the complex platforms that we have
> >>> integrated within the diverse range of social networks, but it was
> >>> thanks to the contributions of these artists to the art community,
> >>> that their concepts and explorations became the constituent bases of
> >>> what nowadays is understood as New Media Art.
> >>>
> >>> This exhibition explores different discourses such as the artistic,
> >>> social and computer science to understand the evolution of New Media
> >>> Art. Looking at these approaches will help us to comprehend some of
> >>> the philosophical and technological additions, which were brought to
> >>> the field of art, and subsequently this methodology will enable us to
> >>> seize the intentional origins of these concepts. For instance thanks
> >>> to the revolutionary and innovative thinking of pioneers like British
> >>> Professor Roy Ascot whose theories about "Telematics", it made
> >>> possible the foundation of such important developments as mobile
> >>> communication. Also artists like Casey Reas co-creator of Processing
> >>> that is a programming language, development environment, and online
> >>> community. Therefore scrutinizing closely these terms trough site
> >>> specific installations will enable viewers to get familiarise with the
> >>> origins of some of the intuitive devices that surround us nowadays.
> >>>
> >>> Digital Analogy exhibition is characterized by the incorporation of
> >>> video installations, mapping projections and site-specific
> >>> interventions; this exhibition layout seeks to rethink concepts such
> >>> as "progress and development". For this reason this exhibition
> >>> examines some specific artworks of electronic arts, in the same way as
> >>> this group of creations will illustrate a fragment of the history of
> >>> electronic and digital arts, and this initiative will provide Bogotá's
> >>> audience the outstanding works of the pioneers of New Media, a term
> >>> that in turn is mediated by the flow of information and its subsequent
> >>> computer hybridisation.
> >>>
> >>> Digital Analogy will allow us to examine closely the formal structures
> >>> of these works and also aims to generate dialogue concerning the
> >>> researches that these theories have arisen. In this exhibition the
> >>> innovation comes from philosophical interpretations of technology and
> >>> programming codes are seeing as poetical resources rather than being
> >>> seen only as a practical tools; which in the contemporary world are
> >>> part of the most advanced forms to distribute knowledge. Working and
> >>> interacting with other communities has become one of the most
> >>> important channels to generate knowledge transfer, thus inviting
> >>> artist who have been working on the foundational bases of these
> >>> subjects it might allow us to appreciate the backend of New Media Art.
> >>>
> >>> Invited artists:
> >>>
> >>> Roy Ascott (UK) ///// Artist and theorist
> >>> Charles Atlas (USA)///// Artist (dance, video and music)
> >>> Jorn Ebner (Germany) ///// Digital drawings
> >>> Michael Kargl (Austria) ////// Site-specific installations
> >>>
> >>> David Peña ///// (CO) Artist
> >>> Alberto Lezaca ///// (CO) Artist and Lecturer
> >>> Carlos Franklin ///// (CO) Artist
> >>> Roque Rivas ///// (CH) Artist
> >>>
> >>> s[edition]
> >>>
> >>> Jake & Dinos Chapman (UK) ///// Artists
> >>> Mat Collishaw (UK) ///// Artist
> >>> Damien Hirst (UK) ///// Artist
> >>> Doug Foster (UK) ///// Artist
> >>> Jenny Holzer (USA) ///// Artist
> >>> Ryoji Ikeda (JP) ///// Artist
> >>> Aaron Koblin (USA) ///// Artist and Visualizer
> >>> Tim Noble & Sue Webster (UK) ///// Artists
> >>> Angelo Plessas (IT) ///// Artist
> >>> Matt Pyke (UK) ///// Artist
> >>> Bill Viola (USA) ///// Artist
> >>> AES+F (RUS) ///// Artist
> >>> Casey Reas (USA) ///// Artist
> >>> Memo Akten (TK) ///// Artist, musician and engineer
> >>>
> >>> Curated by: John Angel Rodriguez
> >>>
> >>>
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