Roger
You have raised an interesting topic. From my understanding of your argument, you seem
to be suggesting that if someone produces a product that is multimodal -- in this
case, (1) the SDO imagery and (2) accompanying music, then the secondary
modality (2) must be equally as novel or contemporary as (1). Not every product
has to contain novelty in every modality. So, while I would agree with you that
contemporary research in sound would have made for an equally interesting
presentation, I don't think that adding music which has withstood the test of time
is a bad thing. The main point is the SDO imagery for this particular product. The
music, in this particular case, is secondary.
paul
On Apr 3, 2015, at 8:23 AM, roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> Guillermo
>
> yes the images of the sun are fascinating- but its always disturbing to see
> scientists use musical styles from a 100 years ago to accompany the most
> contemporary of contemporary images !
>
> why didnt they commission a contemporary composer to write dramatic
> music using todays musical idioms !
>
> there is a huge literature on the connections of science and music
> and the musical avocations of scientists- but somehow there is
> a 'decalage" !!
>
> roger
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Guillermo Muñoz <m.m.guillermo@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 5:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Announcing YASMIN discussion on LIGHT
> To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
>
>
> Dear Yasminers,
>
> We spend one week on this "Light is my business" discussion. We are prety
> happy to see thta there are many contributions from the whole planet.
> Tocelebrate this first week i would like to share this short film about
> our, may be, most important source of light: the sun. The film is made by
> the Goddard Space Flight Center, from NASA. I guess that this extremly
> beautiful images, are science, are data traveling from the sun in kind of
> infrared, visible or UV waves, translated may be to some radio waves, or
> carried by 1,55 microns light throught fiber optics up to our computers.
> Really, i do not exactly all this amazing route of light from Sun up to our
> eyes. But i know that it is fascinating. Is science, i´m sure. But is art,
> i´m sure too. This kinds of fascinations pull us to the adventures. And,
> for sure, to share our emmotions. May be this is the reason because music
> is so important.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSVv40M2aks#t=79
>
>
>
> Guillermo.
>
> 2015-04-02 8:07 GMT+02:00 Avi Rosen <avi@ee.technion.ac.il>:
>
>> On April 27, 1992, the sculptor Ezra Orion directed the performance Super
>> Cathedral I, aiming laser beams perpendicularly and simultaneously around
>> the world up to the sky and the infinity of the universe. This action is
>> the final detachment of sculpture from the physicality that had governed it
>> since prehistory, towards immense energy fields, at the speed of light. The
>> laser beams left the solar system in five hours; today they are 23 light
>> years from Earth. The laser beams join the cathedral of radio waves
>> broadcast from Earth, and their height is around 90 light years. Orion
>> proposed a continuation of this project, to be called Super Cathedral 4,
>> aiming for a unique interstellar cosmic arrangement. According to the laws
>> of Riemann's non-Euclidian geometry, eventually the laser beam will execute
>> a Moebius-strip-like loop in space, and return to its origin: the artist's
>> body and consciousness. The transmitted galactic laser beam loop creates
>> compression of space and time of Schwarzschild's cube model, while uniting
>> between space-time, subject, and object.
>> http://www.orbit.zkm.de/?q=node/108
>>
>> AVI
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr [mailto:
>> yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr] On Behalf Of Liliane Lijn
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 11:37 PM
>> To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS
>> Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Announcing YASMIN discussion on LIGHT
>>
>> Hi Stephen
>>
>> Your questions are fascinating. Have you had any answers to them?
>>
>> David Bohm wrote that light contained all information. He also wrote that
>> matter was 'frozen light'. If he is right, then does matter also contain
>> all information? When 'frozen' will that information degrade?
>>
>> I would be very interested to learn more about this.
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>> Liliane
>> Liliane Lijn
>> +39 075-782-4357
>> 3381694382
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>>
>>
>>> On 30 Mar 2015, at 17:10, Stephen Nowlin <stephen.nowlin@artcenter.edu>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello, Guillermo and Roger -- this should be a fascinating topic.
>>>
>>> I have a question about how much information is contained in light
>> traveling through space. From my house in Southern California I look
>> straight up to Mount Wilson, where Edwin Hubble confirmed an expanding
>> universe by measuring the redshift in light traveling from distant
>> galaxies. Early telescope optics had shown other galaxies as fuzzy clouds
>> of light, and thus by virtue of our inability to fully parse the
>> information contained therein, our perception of the universe was
>> incomplete and conclusions drawn were distorted. The difference between
>> those early fuzz clouds and current images of galaxies from powerful land
>> and space-based telescopes is stunning -- the light reaching us is the
>> same, but our technology for parsing the information contained within that
>> light advanced during the last century.
>>>
>>> So, my question is: How much information travels in light? How much
>> potentially MORE information travels in light than can we can currently
>> decipher, should we be able to develop the technologies to see it?
>>>
>>> It is clear, for example, that light bouncing off the Earth can yield
>> amazing detail as seen from close-by orbiting telescopes -- just look at
>> Google Map's satellite view. And from the Hubble Telescope we can see a lot
>> of information reflected off the surface of Mars, which is of course much
>> further away -- so could some astronomer on another planet at the other
>> side of the galaxy, using light-analyzing technologies we perhaps can't
>> even imagine, theoretically be able to see Mars at the same or even better
>> resolution? Given the physics of light, whether reflected or originated by
>> a body in space, will all the information contained therein travel intact
>> to very far away places? Could we someday observe stars in distant galaxies
>> at the same resolution we currently observe our Sun? My question is not
>> whether it is feasible to invent such sophisticated observation
>> technologies -- but rather would the physics of light traveling through
>> space allow close-up detail from very far aw!
>>> ay -- would the information be preserved in the light and be awaiting
>> detection, should such technologies be invented?
>>>
>>> /stephen
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