Friday, April 3, 2015

Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Fwd: Announcing YASMIN discussion on LIGHT

Roger,

Good point. I agree with this. Even i liked the video (even i like old
music !!), i agree that there is no reason to use different music to push
for a more interactive video. This, as you say, could be a deformation from
scientific community. In fact, we are trying to deal with different
scenario, with art/sci interactions, and the video is not a good example of
a deeply colaboration. Yes, it is true. I think this is a kind of political
decision. Even the video is good, could be extremly better if there were
some political decision to colaborate between artists.

Guillermo.

2015-04-03 15:23 GMT+02:00 roger malina <rmalina@alum.mit.edu>:

> Guillermo
>
> yes the images of the sun are fascinating- but its always disturbing to see
> scientists use musical styles from a 100 years ago to accompany the most
> contemporary of contemporary images !
>
> why didnt they commission a contemporary composer to write dramatic
> music using todays musical idioms !
>
> there is a huge literature on the connections of science and music
> and the musical avocations of scientists- but somehow there is
> a 'decalage" !!
>
> roger
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Guillermo Muñoz <m.m.guillermo@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 5:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Announcing YASMIN discussion on LIGHT
> To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS <yasmin_discussions@estia.media.uoa.gr>
>
>
> Dear Yasminers,
>
> We spend one week on this "Light is my business" discussion. We are prety
> happy to see thta there are many contributions from the whole planet.
> Tocelebrate this first week i would like to share this short film about
> our, may be, most important source of light: the sun. The film is made by
> the Goddard Space Flight Center, from NASA. I guess that this extremly
> beautiful images, are science, are data traveling from the sun in kind of
> infrared, visible or UV waves, translated may be to some radio waves, or
> carried by 1,55 microns light throught fiber optics up to our computers.
> Really, i do not exactly all this amazing route of light from Sun up to our
> eyes. But i know that it is fascinating. Is science, i´m sure. But is art,
> i´m sure too. This kinds of fascinations pull us to the adventures. And,
> for sure, to share our emmotions. May be this is the reason because music
> is so important.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSVv40M2aks#t=79
>
>
>
> Guillermo.
>
> 2015-04-02 8:07 GMT+02:00 Avi Rosen <avi@ee.technion.ac.il>:
>
> > On April 27, 1992, the sculptor Ezra Orion directed the performance Super
> > Cathedral I, aiming laser beams perpendicularly and simultaneously around
> > the world up to the sky and the infinity of the universe. This action is
> > the final detachment of sculpture from the physicality that had governed
> it
> > since prehistory, towards immense energy fields, at the speed of light.
> The
> > laser beams left the solar system in five hours; today they are 23 light
> > years from Earth. The laser beams join the cathedral of radio waves
> > broadcast from Earth, and their height is around 90 light years. Orion
> > proposed a continuation of this project, to be called Super Cathedral 4,
> > aiming for a unique interstellar cosmic arrangement. According to the
> laws
> > of Riemann's non-Euclidian geometry, eventually the laser beam will
> execute
> > a Moebius-strip-like loop in space, and return to its origin: the
> artist's
> > body and consciousness. The transmitted galactic laser beam loop creates
> > compression of space and time of Schwarzschild's cube model, while
> uniting
> > between space-time, subject, and object.
> > http://www.orbit.zkm.de/?q=node/108
> >
> > AVI
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr [mailto:
> > yasmin_discussions-bounces@estia.media.uoa.gr] On Behalf Of Liliane Lijn
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 11:37 PM
> > To: YASMIN DISCUSSIONS
> > Subject: Re: [Yasmin_discussions] Announcing YASMIN discussion on LIGHT
> >
> > Hi Stephen
> >
> > Your questions are fascinating. Have you had any answers to them?
> >
> > David Bohm wrote that light contained all information. He also wrote that
> > matter was 'frozen light'. If he is right, then does matter also contain
> > all information? When 'frozen' will that information degrade?
> >
> > I would be very interested to learn more about this.
> >
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > Liliane
> > Liliane Lijn
> > +39 075-782-4357
> > 3381694382
> > www.lilianelijn.com
> >
> >
> > > On 30 Mar 2015, at 17:10, Stephen Nowlin <stephen.nowlin@artcenter.edu
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello, Guillermo and Roger -- this should be a fascinating topic.
> > >
> > > I have a question about how much information is contained in light
> > traveling through space. From my house in Southern California I look
> > straight up to Mount Wilson, where Edwin Hubble confirmed an expanding
> > universe by measuring the redshift in light traveling from distant
> > galaxies. Early telescope optics had shown other galaxies as fuzzy clouds
> > of light, and thus by virtue of our inability to fully parse the
> > information contained therein, our perception of the universe was
> > incomplete and conclusions drawn were distorted. The difference between
> > those early fuzz clouds and current images of galaxies from powerful land
> > and space-based telescopes is stunning -- the light reaching us is the
> > same, but our technology for parsing the information contained within
> that
> > light advanced during the last century.
> > >
> > > So, my question is: How much information travels in light? How much
> > potentially MORE information travels in light than can we can currently
> > decipher, should we be able to develop the technologies to see it?
> > >
> > > It is clear, for example, that light bouncing off the Earth can yield
> > amazing detail as seen from close-by orbiting telescopes -- just look at
> > Google Map's satellite view. And from the Hubble Telescope we can see a
> lot
> > of information reflected off the surface of Mars, which is of course much
> > further away -- so could some astronomer on another planet at the other
> > side of the galaxy, using light-analyzing technologies we perhaps can't
> > even imagine, theoretically be able to see Mars at the same or even
> better
> > resolution? Given the physics of light, whether reflected or originated
> by
> > a body in space, will all the information contained therein travel intact
> > to very far away places? Could we someday observe stars in distant
> galaxies
> > at the same resolution we currently observe our Sun? My question is not
> > whether it is feasible to invent such sophisticated observation
> > technologies -- but rather would the physics of light traveling through
> > space allow close-up detail from very far aw!
> > > ay -- would the information be preserved in the light and be awaiting
> > detection, should such technologies be invented?
> > >
> > > /stephen
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